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| ===== Papers em revisão ===== | ===== Papers em revisão ===== | ||
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| 3.3 Paulo, não percebo o que o revisor quer na terceira frase ... | 3.3 Paulo, não percebo o que o revisor quer na terceira frase ... | ||
| - | minor comments ok | + | Minor comments ok ! |
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| (2) The historical data was used to condition the simulation work using the covariance parameters obtained with it to define the range of the parameters used for simulation. | (2) The historical data was used to condition the simulation work using the covariance parameters obtained with it to define the range of the parameters used for simulation. | ||
| - | (3) The results obtained by Diggle and Lophaven were not applied to a specific natural resource, they are pure simulation results. Our work used real information and proposed approaches to build the designs and compare them. (++??) | + | (3) The results obtained by Diggle and Lophaven were theoretical and not applied to a real situation, like we did. On the other hand their work compares two specific ways of building sampling designs, "lattice plus close pairs" and "lattice plus infill", and never include a pure random or regular design, which we did. Also they use only geostatistical methods and we also included a comparison of the designs performance using sampling theory estimators. We included anysotropy and log transformation on our analysis. More important of all, we describe an easy way of building a sampling design that has the characteristics of "lattice plus close pairs", by overlaping the random design with a regular design that can be applicable to most European Bottom Trawl Surveys. |
| (4) This results are new at least in Fisheries Science once that there is no reporting of surveys using such sampling strategy. The authors can not guarantee that the theoretical results of Diggle and Lophaven were not implemented already in other scientific areas, but the bibliographic search did not show any relevant papers about its implementation. Also there are secondary results that are new in this work (i) the approach to build the sampling designs, (ii) the approach to compare sampling designs with different sample sizes, (iii) the result about the underestimation of abundance variance by the variance of the sampling mean. The authors agree that these results should be more visible and made the necessary changes. | (4) This results are new at least in Fisheries Science once that there is no reporting of surveys using such sampling strategy. The authors can not guarantee that the theoretical results of Diggle and Lophaven were not implemented already in other scientific areas, but the bibliographic search did not show any relevant papers about its implementation. Also there are secondary results that are new in this work (i) the approach to build the sampling designs, (ii) the approach to compare sampling designs with different sample sizes, (iii) the result about the underestimation of abundance variance by the variance of the sampling mean. The authors agree that these results should be more visible and made the necessary changes. | ||
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| From the Editor-in-Chief : | From the Editor-in-Chief : | ||
| One reviewer asks for relatively small changes, while the other feels the paper is not acceptable unless it is substantially shortened and focused on what is new. If the authors will react to the reviewers comments , I will reconsider the assessment. | One reviewer asks for relatively small changes, while the other feels the paper is not acceptable unless it is substantially shortened and focused on what is new. If the authors will react to the reviewers comments , I will reconsider the assessment. | ||
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| + | ===Versão revista=== | ||
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| + | {{pessoais:fish896.tar.gz|EJ: 03/Jan/2007}} | ||
| ==== Sampling Designs for Bottom Trawl Surveys: The Portuguese Autumn Survey Field Experience ==== | ==== Sampling Designs for Bottom Trawl Surveys: The Portuguese Autumn Survey Field Experience ==== | ||
